good morning. it is friday, november 16, 2012. welcome to cbs "this morning." david petraeus is minutes away from telling congress what the cia was doing in benghazi. >> breaking news, air raid sirens and explosion, violence escalates in the middle east. israel inches closer to sending ground forces into gaza. we're at the border. >> nfl commissioner roger goodell is in studio 57 today to talk concussions, expansion and why your kids should still play football. >> but we begin this morning with today's "eye opener," your world in 90 seconds. we lost fouramericans.

>> are there still questions out there? you bet. we're going to continue to work to get those answers. >> former cia director dave petraeus heads to capitol hill. >> he'll testify behind closed doors about that deadly september 11th attack on benghazi. >> cia announce it's launching an investigation into petraeus' conduct ile he was still in charge of the agency. >> petraeus says no classified information was shared. >> fire was exchanged between israel and hamas. >> this battle is escalating. >> israel is prepared to take whatever action is necessary to defend our people. >> as long as i've been here i haven't seen something of this magnitude. >> four people are dead and 17 more hurt after a train crashed a parade float carrying wounded veterans and their wives. >> president obama visited new york. >> i promise we are going to be here until the rebuilding is complete.

and i meant it. >> hostess will announce this morning if it will liquidate the entire company. are we on the break of a twinkie shortage? >> buffalo wins it to go to 4-6. >> all that -- >> you're welcome. >> you're very handsome. >> so -- >> that's how i roll too. >> -- and all that matters. >> and president obama and four top congressional leaders willamette at the white house for talks on the nation's looming fiscal cliff. >> -- on cbs "this morning." >> nobody likes the fiscal cliff and so much now didn't have much time to talk about it. >> yeah. the sex scandal is all anybody in washington can talk about. i wonder why the country is in financial ruin?

welcome to cbs "this morning." i'm charlie rose in new york. norah o'donnell is in washington. so is information cia director david petraeus who is meeting with members of congress this morning. >> margaret brennan is at the capitol where this morning's closed door hearings are being held. >> reporter: good morning to you, norah and there are camera crews at virtually every entrance of the capitol to get a glimpse of dividend petraeus. he returns as a disgraced former head of the cia and in about 30 minutes he'll appear behind those closed doors to answer questions about intelligence failures and the agency's role in that fatal attack on the u.s. mission in benghazi. >> director pept ptraeus went t tripoli and interviewed many of the people involved. so the opportunity to get his

views, i think, are very important. >> reporter: david petraeus resigned a week ago but cbs news has leaned that when he sits down before congress today he'll give testimony that the cia helped prepare. aides will be with their former director inside the hearing. >> a good thing for our country, it's a good thing for the public, it's a good thing for general petraeus. >> reporter: petraeus will explain why the cia kept a safe house near the u.s. consulate and how the agency tried to fight off the attackers in benghazi where four americans were killed. some in congress question whether pet was pressured t step down for political reasons, not personal ones. >> the only question i will ask him is general petraeus, did your resignation have anything to do with the fact that you were supposed to testify before congress? >> reporter: for three days members have heard from national security officials about the attacks. they are trying to reconcile the varying accounts of what happened during the siege on the

two u.s. posts and whether security was appropriate. >> are there still questions out there? you bet. >> reporter: on thursday members were shown classified video from that night recorded by security cameras and a drone. a u.s. intelligence official tells cbs news it shows the attack did not grow out of a protest as originally thought. it also shows that the attack though intentional was not well-planned. now this is the second time that david petraeus will brief congress about the attacks in benghazi. the first time was two days afterwards but that was before they finalized the timeline of fepz. norah, charlie. >> margaret, brennan thank you. petraeus is still under the spotlight forhe affair that forced him out of his job. bob orr has some new information that story. >> reporter: good morning. fbi officials have told us that their investigation into this whole scandal which brought down david petraeus so far has not turned up any threat or damage

to national security. since the affair with paula broadwell occurred while petraeus was the director of the central intelligence agency, the cia's inspector general has begun his own investigation. sources say the cia is looking into the general conduct of petraeus over the 4 months he headed the agency. officials say the probe is exploratory and doesn't presuppose any particular outcome. but the attorney general wants to make sure he didn't misuse any agency assets in his affair with broadwell. for the first time thursday attorney general eric holder defended the justice department's handling of the fbi summer long investigation of the broadwell/petraeus matter. holder was asked specifically about the fbi's decision to delay notifying the white house until after the election. >> we felt secure in the knowledge that a national security threat did not exist that warranted the sharing of that information with the white house or with the hill. >> reporter: on capitol hill

lawmakers held confirmation hearings for general joseph dumfries the man in line to replace general allen. but allen's promotion to nato commander remains on hold. the pentagon's inspector general is still reviewing hundreds of emails that he exchanged with jill kelley the woman who led the fbi to uncover the affair between broadwell and petraeus. john mccain says he still supports allen. >> i believe general allen is one of our best military leaders and i continue to have confidence in his ability to lead the war in afghanistan as well as to serve in the post for which he has now been nominated. >> reporter: in a separate interview the nation's top military commander, general dempsey expressed similar confidence. he acknowledged the effect of the investigation on his nomination. saying i see this investigation and how long it could take

affecting that. leon panetta is directing dempsey to oversee ethical culture and why so many top commanders find themselves involved in legal and ethical problems. that review has been planned for a while but the investigation involving petraeus and allen has given tissue new >> bob thanks. the border clash between israel and hamas is three days old and getting more violent. israel offered a three hour truce but hamas answered with a barrage of missiles. one was aimed at tel aviv. allen pizzey is in israel just a couple of miles from the border with gaza. >> reporter: the israeli

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welcome back to cbs "this morning." i'm norah o'donnell in washington. charlie rose is in new york. good morning, charlie. >> good morning. >> nearly 6 million american children play youth football and just over a million play in high school and 75,000 play in college. however jim axelrod reports there's a growing injury controversy that's threatening football's future all the way to the nfl. >> reporter: baseball may be claimed as a national pastime but football's hold on our culture is taking its place. >> is this for good? >> it is. it's an obsession.

>> reporter: former nfl quarterback is an analyst for "the nfl today on cbs" sports. the networks pay the leagues $5 billion a year to broadcast professional football. and will tell you it's worth every cent. >> for all of us as americans, sunday basically in the fall is all about football. >> so i'm not sitting with you in ten years saying what happened, how did basketball get to be the most important sport in our culture. >> only one way that would happen and that's if the moms of this world decided to say my little boy can't play football. >> reporter: he's talking about head injuries. an issue that's exploded as thousands of former players filed suit against the league claiming the nfl hid information linking football related head injuries to permanent brain-damage. a claim the league contests. just last sunday three nfl quarterbacks suffered concussions. >> somewhere between 30 and 60 head-to-head collisions. it's just the way it is.

that's why the helmets are important. that's where the teaching of how to tackle, how to run with the ball is important. not only at the nfl level but all the way down the lower levels. >> reporter: nfl addressing what's the biggest threat to the game's popularity, football status as america's favorite sport is in for a long run. >> he's on his way and gone. >> reporter: for cbs "this morning" i'm jim acle rod in new york. >> roger goodell has been the nfl's commissioner since 2006. he discussed nfl's role in making football safer for all players. roger goodell joins us now. welcome. >> good morning, charlie. >> you spoke to this issue yesterday. has the nfl done enough to stop concussions and to recognize when they happen? >> i don't think you ever do enough. what we talked about yesterday was a comprehensive approach to tell people what we have done but we still believe we have

more work to do. >> does that very speech suggest you were worried about the public perception of the nfl in. >> no to get the dialogue going. we believe part of our responsibility is to bring recognition to this injury. an injury that happens in other sports, football is one of our major challenges and we want to show people what we're doing in football to make not only football safer but i think we'll make all sports safer. >> we had three concussions last weekend. >> that's right. just one concussion is too many. what we need to do is make sure our players are using the protection we provide for them. we want to make sure we're doing everything to enforce our rules. one hit was on an illegal hit that was penaltyized on the field and then also disciplined later. we got to make sure we wren force our rules and players using all of prour texas. but there's no simple answer to a complex problem. >> here's what else you said. a cultural shift is they'ded to to change the warrior mentality

of players unwilling to disclose when they are hurt. >> well i told the story in that speech, charlie, about a 15-year-old girl playing field hockey. a friend of our family. she fell on the turf, passed out momentarily, got up and continued to lay. that's warrior mentality in a 15-year-old girl. we need to make sure that when players are injured no matter what the sport, no matter who they are, they need to seek medical attention so they can get the proper medical care. >> warrior mentality also is bounty for taking out players. aaron rodgers said the other night or the other day to scott pelley he's the subject of that kind of an effort to take him out of the game. >> we took a strong position on bounties. for three years we had charges that it was happening in new orleans. we finally got the information. we took a very strong position. it's clear that it happens.

it's been admitted to. what we need to do is not only in the nfl but every level of football and sport if that kind of thing is inappropriate. you do not have a reward for injuring an opponent. that's not what sports are all about. >> talked to drew brees recently. here's what he said. he said despite the injustice at the league official and commissioner goodell have committed against our team and sean payton i ask myself what would sean want us to do. elves like the league has been unfair. >> well, i think the evidence is very clear and they have their appeals and they will go through that. it's going in front of former commissioner rozeal. we have to enforce our rules and make sure when we see violations of our rules especially in the case of bounty, we enforce those properly. i won't to in any way compromise

on that. >> you also raised an awareness about growth hormones as being a part of that. what's that? >> we had a drug enhancing program. we believed we agreed to hgh testing program. it would take hgh hopefully out of the game. we think this is wrong for players safety but wrong for the integrity of the game. we hope to still reach that agreement with our players association because it needs to get out of the game and out of sports in general. >> what did you learn from the referee bargaining? >> you never want to have those types of disputes going on. that's something we apologize to our fans. we don't want those kinds of things to happen. the reality is they are part of making sure that the long term good of the game is handled properly. what we have now is changes in our program to make things better. we're still making mistakes on the field.

that's part of it. it's an imperfect science. >> nfl and professional football is one of the most attractive sports in terms of television and everything else. americans love football. is it going expand beyond america? >> well we had great success in the uk. we just played another regular season in the uk. next year we'll expand to it two games. we're playing in toronto. great success in other markets like mexico and the far evident. our game is very popular. our fans want more football. that's what we're doing. >> you talked about the culture. football players in the nfl are role models and in the nba as well and in other professional sports. how do you make sure that the players appreciate that by their personal conduct? >> well we have a personal conduct policy which was put together with the players and

it's very important. because they are role models and they are held to a higher standard and i think all of us in the nfl are held to a higher standard. and when we're not we will be held accountable. we have a program that's focused on education and discipline. when people don't meet the standard of the nfl there are consequences for that. >> what your worried about the most? >> player health and safety. that's our number one challenge and focus. we want to keep our athletes safe and athletes in every sport. >> the television coverage makes it attractive to watch the game at home rather than the stadium. is that a problem for the owners? >> it's a challenge for us. our television partner cbs they do a great job, watching a football game in high-definition super slow-mo is a great experience. that won't change it will only

get better. our challenge is how do we make sure that same kind of experience happens in the stadiums. we're bringing technology into the stadium. we're working harder to make sure fans feel safe. when they come to our event help to have a great experience. >> you wrote a if i mouse letter which i talked to you about to your father in which you said two things i want to make you proud of me. and second i want to be the commissioner of the nfl. you clearly made your father proud of you and you clearly have been the commissioner of the nfl having served a long time at the nfl. how long will you continue to serve as commissioner? >> i would tell you oil do it as long as i can make a difference. as long as i can make the game safer for our athletes and improve on what we've done already i'll continue to do it. at some point oil move on and do something else. >> thank you roger goodell. do maebs know right from wrong and good from evil in"60 minutes" goes inside a baby lab where they are giving us the

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good song. you would think there's nothing more innocent or trusting than a baby, right? but researchers are using new tools to show that babies know who is good and who is bad. this sunday on "60 minutes" lesley stahl visits a baby lab. >> reporter: we watched as our team asked questions 20 years that might have gotten her laughed. does wesley at the ripe old age of five months know the difference between right and wrong? wesley watches as the puppet in the center struggles to open up a box with a do i inside. the puppy in the yellow shirt

comes over and lends a hand. then the scene repeats itself but this time the puppy in the blue shirt comes and slams the box shut. nice behavior? mean behavior? at least to our eyes. but is that how a 5-month-old sees it? does he have a preference? >> do you remember these guys from the show. >> reporter: to find out a researcher who doesn't know which puppet was nice or mean offers wesley a choice. who do you like. he can't answer but he can reach. >> that one. >> reporter: wesley chose the good guy. he wasn't alone. more than three quarters of the babies tested reached for the nice puppet. >> that one. >> reporter: they tried it out on younger babies, 3-month-olds who can't control their arms enough to reach but they can vote with their eyes. since researchers have shown

very young babies look longer at things they like. >> which one do you like? daisy looked at the mean puppet for five seconds. then switched to the nice one for 33. >> babies even at 3 months looked towards the nice character and looked hardly at all, much, much shorter time towards the unhelpful character. >> reporter: basically as young as 3-month-old we human beings show a preference for nice people over mean people. >> study after study the results are consistently babies feeling positively towards helpful individuals in the world and disapproving, disliking maybe condemning individuals who are anti-social towards others. >> reporter: it's astonishing. >> it is astonishing, charlie. >> indeed. i wonder the first time i saw that whether that was just a natural reaction. when you watch the eyes and

everything else, it says there were continuing opportunities to learn more about what's going on inside kids' heads. >> yes. of course it's cute to watch the babies. >> even the. hostess says if workers don't end their strike no more snacks. we'll have an update on the

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it's 8:00 a.m. welcome to cbs "this morning." david petraeus is on capitol hill. we'll ask an white house adviser what he can say about benghazi and if the military has a larger problem with ethics. maker of twingeies and wonder bread lance to turn off its 0 convenience for good. first here's what's been happening in the world and what we've been covering on cbs "this morning." >> camera crews at virtually every entrance of the capitol trying to get a glimpse of david petraeus. >> petraeus meeting with members of congress this morning. >> he's agreed to answer questions that killed the

ambassador in benghazi. >> troops arrived here to tell us and every broad caster that we have to leave. >> the real danger is that it could lead to a wider outbreak. >> a parade float was hit by a train in maryland left-hand, texas. >> growing injury controversy that's threatening football's future all the way to the nfl. >> we have to enforce our rules and make sure when we see violations of o rules we're enforcing them properly and i'm not going to in any weigh compromise on that. >> do babies know right from wrong and good from evil. >> president obama hosted a screening of the new movie "lincoln" after the movie joe biden was like whoa i did not see that ending coming. >> i'm charlie rose with gayle king. norah o'donnell is in washington.

air raid sirens went off in tel aviv, israel this morning. a rocket fired by militants in gaza landed in the sea. second attack in two days on tel aviv. >> throughout the night israeli forces launched a hundred missiles at gaza city. one hit the interior ministry. egypt's prime minister visited gaza this morning in show of support to hamas. >> images and prop pagan da are distributing instantly. john miller is here with that part of the story. good morning. >> good morning, charlie. >> what are they doing in the way they use social media that's different? >> we've never seen this before which is you've got a shooting war going on that started all of a sudden and you've got the israeli defense forces tweeting out in very real-time, the sirens just went off, missiles are coming, we struck here, we struck there and hamas on their twitter tweeting back we just

fired here, we just hit this, we struck that. and you got the war of the missiles but you got the war of words going direct to the public, bypassing the media. >> the risk of that? >> there's no risk of it. if you're the israeli defense forces, or for that matter hamas you don't go through the very critical questioning media filter. you're talking direct to the people. but it's very interesting that they watch the arab spring and seen what the people can do with these tools and saying why can't a government marshall support the same way. >> do you think this kind of interaction and participation will make a difference? in real-time you can see what's happening. >> it is. you are glued to a television for part of that. people have lives. they are driving cabs, running coffee stands and getting this on their smartphones and feeling involved because they can talk too. they are tweeting back. and you saw something really strange the other day where somebody said the enemy, this is

an israeli tweeting to the idf saying the enemy is trending. hamas was getting more mentions although not followers and they said we need more retweets, there's the war of tweets going on. >> some people worry this makes war even more so different than the reality of war because you're seeing it electronically. >> in a per february world all wars would just to be done on twitter. i think what they are going for is not just the removed cyber aspect but a combination of transmitting the information, just conduit of information, that's the easy part. but also the psychological operations when the israelis put up a video where they show them killing the hamas military leader, by the way we can tweet out that if we find one of your -- we know who your leaders

are and we can eliminate them with a press of a button. >> three days ago congress returned to washington illinois congressman jesse jackson jr. left the mayo clinic. he's been getting mental health treatment for months and right now nobody knows where he is. jay levine is at the congressman's capitol hill office. jay where is he? >> reporter: i think he's somewhere in minnesota, i believe with his mother. the fact is it was kind of eerie in his office. hit the feeling of a museum of pictures and mementos celebri celebrating a career. >> reporter: here in yes so jackson's office, his staff is working but the congressman hasn't been here since june. his inner office empty and untouched as doctors identified and started treatment for a bipolar mood disorder. first at the mayo clinic then as an out patient at his

washington, d.c. home. for reporters and cameras literally chased him back to mayo last month. he left there on tuesday with his parents the reverend jesse jackson and mother jacqueline and hasn't been seen since. he's not in washington or chicago where his wife is chicago city councilwoman miss ad key vote at a meeting she was planning to attend until a health scare involving another family member. >> she's bouncing around a lot both as a mother, as a spouse, as a public servant. >> reporter: adding to the mystery an investigation into the alleged misuse of campaign funds. sources tell cbs news jackson's legal team is negotiating a plea agreement that could result in his stepping down and doing time. but it's jackson's silence that's grabbing the most attention and even his congressional allies urge him to speak out. >> this situation has reached a point where he needs to come out and speak and answer some basic questions about what he's been

through. >> a number of those who have seen and spoken with jackson said he's not close to being ready for questioning let alone full time return to congress. whether or not it's part of a plea agreement a man who was seen as a rising star in the democratic party is inevitable. >> the company that makes twi twinkies, wonder bred and other is going out of business. carter evans has the story. >> reporter: this morning hostess filed a motion with u.s. bankruptcy court to close its doors for good and selling off its iconic brands. the company does not have the resources to weather the strike. while many workers are still walking the pickett lines hostess says some union members decided to break ranks late yesterday giving up the pickett line so they wouldn't end up on the unemployment line if the work stoppage continued.

>> your option if you think there's something better you should go find that job. but that doesn't mean you should strike and put 17,000, 18,000 other people out of work and other families out of work just because you're unhappy with the terms. >> reporter: the economic downturn hit hostess hard. the company behind wonder bread as well as twinkies and ding dongs lost $43 million last year. they already reached an agreement with the teamsters that took a pay cut but the bakers union went on strike last week. the shelves are nearly bare in los angeles. inside the store they are telling customers all they can do now is hope. but workers say if hostess is low on dough, it should find other ways to cut costs. >> we're not some greedy union workers. we all have families. mortgages. car payments. >> reporter: so you might want to start stockpiling those

twinkies. stores will remain open a few more days to sell off its remaining products. those iconic products will not be gone for good, they will be swallowed up by other businesses. >> i used to live on twinkies when i was in college. did you ever have a twinkie. >> a long time ago. >> how about you norah o'donnell? >> absolutely. ding dongs an absolute favorite. wonder bread what will i do with my miracle whip if i don't have wonder bread. >> wonder bred with peanut butter and jelly.

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>> amazon.com is the world's largest online retailer. i spoke yesterday where it's founder and ceo jeff bezos. is the retail giant ready for retail stores? >> are you hided for brick-and-mortar. >> i get asked this question a lot. we would love to but if we could have a different idea. so one of the things that we are, we don't do very well at amazon is do a me too product offering. when i look at physical retail stores it's very well served, the people who operate physical retail stores are very good at it. and so the question we would always have before we would embark on such a thing is what's the idea? what would we do that would be different? how would it be different?

we don't want to do things because we can do them. we want to do something -- we don't want to be redundant. >> would it have any advantage other than acprofit center which is a pretty good advantage. >> that's the kind of question we ask ourselves when we look for something that would make it not a me too offering. we want it to be differentiated. if somebody -- if a hundred companies are doing something and you're the 101st you're not bringing any value to society. and typically by the way the business results aren't very good for something like that either. and so what we want to do is we want to do something that's uniquely amazon and if we can find that idea and we haven't found i want yet, if we can find that idea we would love to open physical stores. >> jeff bezos said to me that kindles and everything they manufacture is not because they want to sell kindles it's because they want to sell the things they sell through the kindles. >> he's so smart, charlie.

he's so smart. amazon is so successful. i'm thinking why would they want to do brick-and-mortar stores when amazon seems to may have the market. you can get anything on amazon. >> tell me what's new about doing it and then maybe we can do it. >> if somebody can find something new it's jeff bezos. >> the book "kitchen confidential" exposes dirty secrets. anthony bourdain will tell you how restaurants have changed and why it's okay to eat fish on mondays. remember back in the days they said don't do that. what changed? that's ahead on cbs "this morning." ♪ ♪ grown in america.

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former cia director david petraeus arrived on capitol hill this morning to testify behind closed doors in a secure room. the hearing is focused on the attack that killed the u.s. ambassador libya and his

relationship with paula broadwell. michelle flournoy is a top pentagon official and is with us. general petraeus on the hill will be talking to members of congress. you served in the defense department. what do you think comes up? >> i think first of all, they will ask him whether we had any prior warning or intelligence that the attack was going to occur. then they will ask him what people knew and when they knew it and finally they will be very interested in knowing how did the cia respond on the ground? did they offer additional security at the compound. >> we know now defense secretary leon panetta has ordered an ethics review of many of those top serving officials. you were the highest ranking woman at the defense department. is this needed? >> absolutely. leon panetta is a stickler about ethics and a stickler about accountability and he's doing the right thing. >> is there a cultural problem at the defense department tor military? >> don't think it's widespread

or in general but this is an opportunity for everybody to take a minute, step back, look at the question of are we affecting ethics in the officer corps. are we doing enough with training and mentoring. he's asked each of the services to review what exactly they do on these issues and report back and see if there's any way to strengthen the system. >> at the center of this thing is paula broadwell, a west point graduate. she was an army reservist. had done a lot of intelligence. yet she took six trips to afghanistan as a reservist in trying to write this biography and also flew out of afghanistan with general petraeus on his plane to a visit of european capitals. is that an unusual relationship? >> it seems to be a very unusual relationship. it's not something you would typically see, i've never seen anything like that before. >> so is that appropriate to be exchanging that kind of communication between the two of them even though she's writing a

biography? what sort of alarm bells did it set off for you? >> again, i don't think people knew the extent of the relationship but the more that's come out the question is why wasn't this noticed when it was building to the point of just before they started their affair. >> this ensnared the current top general in charge afghanistan, general allen. do you think he can survive to become the nato leader? >> we have to wait for that investigation to take its course. we don't know what the nature of the relationship is there. so, i think we need to presume innocence until the investigation takes its course. >> your name has been mentioned on the short list for defense secretary in the second administration. is that something you would consider? >> well, i'm honored to be speculated about, but i am very happy where i am at the moment since leaving public service. >> all right. michelle flournoy, could to see you. thank you for being her.

the president and republicans have stabd out their positions on the fiscal crisis. we'll get advice for them from ♪

welcome back to cbs "this morning." president obama meets today with congressional lead towers talk about the upcoming fiscal cliff. >> if they don't agree on a budget deal by the end. year there will be automatic spending cuts and tax increase. republican strategist and cbs political analyst frank luntz met with two dozen voters and asked them what they would do to resolve the crisis. >> you've heard the phrase fiscal cliff. aren't you nervous abo what will happen to the country in the next few weeks? >> i'm very nervous. >> i got good news for you. they are is goin to the 11th

hour and put a band aid on it. >> course. they pass the buck. pass the buck. >> it will be like this. you did it. she did it. >> i want a show of hands how many of you think at the end that the republicans and democrats, the white house and congress will come together, get an agreement and there won't be a fiscal cliff? raise your hands if you think they succeed. so you're pretty optimistic. but you're not. >> no. >> why not? >> i would like to be. but they got to put the nation first. they got to stop demonizing each other and sit down together regardless of party, regardless of what the media says and try network out some real solutions that are going to help us. >> so your definition of putting the country first means taxing anybody that makes over $250,000. >> no. don't put words in my mouth. i don't know what the ultimate solution is. but i know that in this city

it's almost forbidden for a democrat or republican to be seen together in town. it's like you committed treason. sit down and talk. they don't have to agree on all the issues but that's -- >> that's where the demarcation line comes. do we raise taxes on the so-called wealthy or not. >> shove hands. how many people would allow the bush tax cuts as part of a comprehensive agreement, would allow them to expire? okay. barely, barely half of you. how many would allow those on millionaires, those who make a million dollars or more to expire, raise your hands. so that's the key. 250,000 is not quite high enough. a million dollars is high enough for most of you. anyone else want to say anything about the fiscal cliff? >> we need to do with congress what they did in colonial america with juries. you put them in a room with no

food, no water, no heat and no bathroom breaks and they cannot leave until they have a decision. >> you guys agree with that. >> frank luntz joins us now. frank, first of all i'm impressed by the intelligence and the common sense of these people. they seem to reflect this idea that why can't washington do something? >> well it's interesting because they voted for change no matter what side they were on. they voted for change and they didn't get it and they are kind of nervous that the status quo will continue. they do believe the fiscal cliff is a challenge but americans are paying more attention to what's happening in washington because they see affected in their paychecks, they see it affected in their housing prices. charlie they get you want. if washington doesn't solve this they know her going get hurt. >> you asked them about the tax cuts. they seem to be very clear about that. what else are they willing to compromise on? >> well, what they want more than anything else is cuts in spending. and they are prepared to do

virtually anything if you give them those spending cuts. i'll be specific here. they won't take a cut in medicare or social security. but if you change those entitlement programs and raise the retirement age, that they will accept. so there is some give there. second is going beyond economics, they believe that you have to have a solution to this immigration issue. that you can't have the borders so porous, you can't have people here living here illegally there has to be a way you can get workers into this country who want to come in the right way and that you at least legalize those who come in here through no fault of their own. so even if washington isn't prepared to compromise the american people are. >> what's the disconnect between the voters and the members of congress? >> it's very simple. it's the primary process. republicans are afraid that if they compromise they will be primaried, some were, dick luger lost his election. senator been nee bennet lost hi

election. moderate democrats are afraid someone more progressive will come and run against them if they are seen as talking. so what washington needs to do basically is both sides need to step out together. if they do it at the same time, if they do it hand-in-hand voters will not punish them in fact they will reward them for getting the job done. >> thank you, frank. i got a kick out of the woman put them in a room no good, no water, no bathroom breaks they will get it done. >> by the way, i hope they do it and i just want to be there to watch. >> don't we all. thank you frank. forde kids a young women have been vanishing along a

nearly 50 young women and girls have been murdered or just simply disappeared along a rural highway in western canada. locals call at any time highway of tears. tomorrow night on "48 hours" peter van sant follows a trail to a suspect. >> reporter: it's one of the most beautiful, most spectacular roads that you'll ever travel and suddenly you see one of these signs and you feel this foreboding on the road. bob friel says highway 16 a remote 450 mile long stretch much road in british columbia, canada is a cruel place littered with broken dreams. >> the royal canadian mounted police force says there's 8 victims. local people believe the number is 33, 43, perhaps even more. >> this area we're coming in to right now, two victims from this remote community.

we have one murdered young girl and one missing young lady. >> reporter: sergeant wayne clary's job to find the killers responsible for all this pain. >> this is the highway of tears. perfect ground for someone because they can hide their victim. >> i would add. a perfect dumping ground. >> reporter: the ages of the victims range from 12 to 33. many are teens. dawn and eldon scott's daughter miss not far from this highway of tears. >> she disappeared from just a few feet away. it's devastating. >> reporter: doug leslie from a neighboring town knew his 15-year-old daughter loren was in trouble when he got a late night phone call. >> i get a call from the cops saying, asking if loren there was. i said what's going on. they said if loren is home

somebody is using her i.d. i thought that was strange. >> what does that mean >> they found her i.d. in a vehicle. >> reporter: doug began driving along the highway of tears until he found police lights. his daughter's body had been discovered. >> she was molested. beat over the head with a pipe wrench and her throat was cut. >> who could do such a thing? >> not a human for sure. >> reporter: "48 hours" spent months following the cases along the highway of tears. now after decades of despair there is hope. >> peter, we have a major break in this case and it involves an american. >> peter van sant joins us at the table. what a nice way to end piece. that's a tease. what do authorities know about the american suspect? >> his name is bobby jack fowler. he lived in 11 different states. there's ongoing investigations in all of those.

they believe he killed at least seven women in oregon, perhaps as many as nine in canada. and this man may end up being the next ted bundy. >> do they think one person is responsible for the victims that you talked about in your story? >> no, they do not. they think there's another serial killer and this highway, the publicity that it's garnered was a magnet for killers. >> the fact that it's called the highway of tears is such a very way to describe it. in your piece you said it's because it's a lonely isolated area. is there another reason why they call it that? >> simply because of all the women that disappeared, all the pain that's been caused. we traveled thousands of miles meeting these families. this suspect comes at the end of our story, it was a shock to everyone and a happy ending to this. >> all right. "48 hours" on saturday. thank you peter van sant. name of the piece is called "highway of tears" tomorrow at 10:00, 9:00 central time. >> if you think "new york times"

was tough on guy fieri's new restaurant wait until you hear what anthony bourdain has to say. he's joining us next on the table on cbs "this morning." at the be table. he won't be on the tab

new research just came out. this is crazy. it reveals the closer you live to a bar the more likely you're to become a heavy drinker. yeah. the closer you live to a dunkin' donuts the closer you are likely to become governor of new jersey. >> enough already. anthony bourdain speaks his mind about food and other chefs. the author and tv host put out a new version of his bets selling memoir, "kitchen confidential." it discusses how restaurants have changed over the last decade. anthony bourdain, we have the

news this morning that twinkies is going out of business. based on your history i would love to know your thought on twinkies. >> i have mixed emotions about it. even if they do close forever their product will be fresh and chewy in 25 years. >> you know the "new york times" had a very harsh review of guy fieri's restaurant so harsh it's gone viral. some people said it was too much. what do you think? >> in fairness i haven't eaten there, so it was a very funny review. i think it's being positioned now as an elitist "new york" coming down on a nice country boy. i know his work pretty well and i think he was holding fieri's restaurant is to what is it to what he claims to be. he said compared to an applebee's is it what he says it is. he says it fell short. to be fair to guy i haven't eaten there. >> what is it you most like to

do? >> you know, i clearly like what do i. i like traveling. i like working. >> you're off to burma. what will you do? >> i'll be doing -- i think what i always do look at the country from the vantage point of an either. i'll be sitting down with hopefully interesting people, sharing their food, and listening to what their lives are like. >> and the most exciting place you've been? >> cuba is a wonderful and thought-provoking and heartbreaking and beautiful place. i don't know. vietnam is sort of my first love as far as travel in the world. >> i was on the plane going to turkey one day and set upping across from me was anthony and you were going somewhere in central europe, i think. >> yeah, i think so. i forget. >> your show is heading over to cnn after leaving the travel channel.

seemed to end on a dicey note at the travel channel. what happened? >> the last episode of my show and saw myself in a car commercial, a perfectly nice car but a car i don't drive and i don't endorse. i sort of feel before you put me in a commercial you should ask. >> is it okay to put you in the car. going to cnn there's changes at cnn. are you worried how that will affect your show? >> no. i'm happy to go over there. they are a big worldwide organization with an infrastructure all over and a history of working in difficult areas, and a lot of those places like yemen, libya, the congo, these are exactly the sort of places i haven't been able to shoot and would like to. >> the thing that's so cool i read "kitchen confidential" back in the day. it changed how i thought, i checking out the bathrooms when i went in. didn't order fish on mondays. in twopt you said eat the fish on monday already.

what changed? >> since the time period covered in this book, a lot has changed. it's become for better or worse a glamour profession to cook. people care. customers have higher expectations. they care what the chefs think. and the chefs are very aware of that scrutiny and standards, the expectations have changed. unless you're eating at an irish public on monday the fish special, you know, you're expectations for a great seafood meal would be low in any case. eat the fish. >> okay. >> one of the things that interested me we were talking about twinkies i know people that serve doughnuts as dessert. is that okay with you. >> like doughnuts. i'm a cheap date. >> you don't want to cook. >> me personally? i like cooking. >> you don't want to own a restaurant. >> i had 28 years, three decades standing on my feet in restaurants in a constantly uncertain world come paired to

what i do these days. life is good. i'm in my 50s. little use in a professional kitchen. >> is there one location you most want to go to that you haven't been able to get there yet? >> i'm obsessed going up the congo river and retracing conrad's steps. so much of the history of the world has either overlapped or taken place directly in the jonjon congo. >> is it hard? >> yes. i've tried numerous times and for various security reasons it's been impossible. >> anthony, you had said also back in the day about the book about check out the bathrooms. i literally started to check out the bathrooms. now you changed on that too. you said a dirty bathroom is no big idea. >> it was a new york centric book. since then i've traveled all over the world. so many of the greatest meals of the world especially in southeast asia have been in places with filthy bathrooms. the presence of livestock or

chickens in the dining room is often a mark of a good meal. >> anthony bourdain thank you very much. norah, see you monday. >> good to see you guys. >> that want does it for us. as we leave you let's take a look back at the week that was. have a great weekend. >> should he have resigned? he heads the biggest intelligence agency we have. it's perfectly proper he resign. >> petraeus scandal came very early this morning. >> overnight bomb shells. >> general john allen is the top u.s. commander in afghanistan and has denied improper relationships with jill kelley. >> same woman who was threatened by broad. >> is there such a thing as a private e-mail. >> there's an old metaphor we used back in the old internet days, earn mail is not like a phone call or a letter it's like a postcard. >> this fbi agent number one the whistleblower. >> fred humphries is known as a hard charger. there's a bit of an edge to him. >> it falls under the core this is a hot mess.

>> giving john miller something to do. >> because i was so bored. >> president is likely to insist on nominating susan rice as secretary of state. >> if you're going to tell the american people something you better damn sure it's true. >> is moderate a bad word? >> it has been in the republican party. the president was elected on the basis he was not romney and romney was a goofy head. >> can the airlines meet these requirement? >> they can and they will. >> if my first officer and i had not been as experienced we could not have had the same outcome and people would have died. >> police said they were in the park wilding, except the story wasn't true. >> you have a chance to heal this. why are we not moving swiftly towards some sort of closure and justice. >> we play great one day. come back the next day and what happened. >> you were talking to the golf virgin at the table. >> remember standing on stage

and there being 100 people out there watching. ♪ >> you're in my chair. >> i feel the greatness of the chair. >> miss you. >> guy fieri. did i say it right? >> for me it's about knowing the smartest people in the world. >> charlie rose, i know you know a thing or two about lincoln. >> i know a thing or two about doris kearns goodwin. >> you got to go all the way. >> for cbs "this morning" i'm charlie d'agata on the real abbey road. >> i was surprised about his house. you believe daniel day-lewis got it right. >> those things that are equal to the same things are equal to each other. >> they killed kinney. they killed kinney. >> bartlett's familiar quotations. >> i'll mention butter. one more time with butter.

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